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	<title>Kommentarer till The legality of screenscraping</title>
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	<description>Programmering, juridik, punkrock och andra trivialiteter</description>
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		<title>Av: John Beck Property Vault</title>
		<link>http://blog.tomtebo.org/2005/03/29/the_legality_of_screenscraping/comment-page-1/#comment-101139</link>
		<dc:creator>John Beck Property Vault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 06:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think screen scraping is cool. I wrote my first screen scraping program the same week I got my first job, almost ten years ago~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think screen scraping is cool. I wrote my first screen scraping program the same week I got my first job, almost ten years ago~</p>
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		<title>Av: SpaceMonkey</title>
		<link>http://blog.tomtebo.org/2005/03/29/the_legality_of_screenscraping/comment-page-1/#comment-86007</link>
		<dc:creator>SpaceMonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your blog but I don&#039;t understand Swedish :-(  You say its probably not that interesting to non-swedes, but i don&#039;t agree.  

Sweden is in the global spotlight for copyright and digital rights laws.  Sweden is doing a lot of great things to protect consumers and also not making vague blanket laws that are clearly written by bureaucrats that don&#039;t understand the technology.  It is really useful for people from other countries to see and understand whats going on in Sweden and use it as an example to try and achieve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your blog but I don&#8217;t understand Swedish <img src='http://blog.tomtebo.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />   You say its probably not that interesting to non-swedes, but i don&#8217;t agree.  </p>
<p>Sweden is in the global spotlight for copyright and digital rights laws.  Sweden is doing a lot of great things to protect consumers and also not making vague blanket laws that are clearly written by bureaucrats that don&#8217;t understand the technology.  It is really useful for people from other countries to see and understand whats going on in Sweden and use it as an example to try and achieve.</p>
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		<title>Av: Ny tv-widget - Page 8 - 99mac</title>
		<link>http://blog.tomtebo.org/2005/03/29/the_legality_of_screenscraping/comment-page-1/#comment-6291</link>
		<dc:creator>Ny tv-widget - Page 8 - 99mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 11:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ursprungligen skriven av gusax840 Ja man måste säkert abonnera på Showview för att få koderna officiellt. Vad jag menade var att själva koderna ju måste komma från någon matematisk formel.    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showview#Algorithms" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Showview#Algorithms</a>  Jag ser att <a href="http://dagenstv.com/" rel="nofollow">http://dagenstv.com/</a> visar något som jag antar är ShowView-nummer. Det är ju tekniskt möjligt att extrahera sådan information därifrån, men kanske olagligt &#8211; i alla fall oönskad av personerna bakom sajten. [...]</p>
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		<title>Av: Jeremy Stanley</title>
		<link>http://blog.tomtebo.org/2005/03/29/the_legality_of_screenscraping/comment-page-1/#comment-2288</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Stanley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciated your comments here in English.  I do a lot of statistical analysis of publicly available data, and find that some US state web sites encourage this by including downloadable .csv or database files.  Others create complex forms for accessing the data, seemingly to discourage automatic access.  I am learning screen-scraping in Perl, but am concerned about where to draw the line in my use.  Clearly, if there is a &quot;terms and conditions&quot; statement that speaks to the use of an automatic tool, then it would be illegal (unethical?), and I think your working definition of not circumventing (albeit weak) security measures is a good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciated your comments here in English.  I do a lot of statistical analysis of publicly available data, and find that some US state web sites encourage this by including downloadable .csv or database files.  Others create complex forms for accessing the data, seemingly to discourage automatic access.  I am learning screen-scraping in Perl, but am concerned about where to draw the line in my use.  Clearly, if there is a &#8221;terms and conditions&#8221; statement that speaks to the use of an automatic tool, then it would be illegal (unethical?), and I think your working definition of not circumventing (albeit weak) security measures is a good one.</p>
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		<title>Av: Morgan Whitney</title>
		<link>http://blog.tomtebo.org/2005/03/29/the_legality_of_screenscraping/comment-page-1/#comment-650</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Whitney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2005 23:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there,

I have run into a similar problem to the one you described and wanted to expresss my appreciation for your clear thoughts on the matter. There is a website in the US called Craigslist (cragslist.com). Some guy created www.housingmaps.com by esentially scraping data from craigslist and using the Google Maps API to provide a visual tool to the craigslist real estate listings.

I had thought of the same thing a while back, but using MLS data (MLS = multilisting, a regional consolidated data source for real estate professionals).  I made such an application, and it went so well I thought I would contact the people I was getting the MLS data from and offer them free advertising in exchange for an actual data feed, which they provide commercially.  They were not very nice to me, and sort of freaked out.  I have been trying to find another way to get this data, another *legal* way, but it doesnt seem likely. They have incredibly detailed rules regarding the use of their data, even for their paying customers.

Anyway, that was probably not very interesting to read, but I just wanted to thank you for the article. It gave some perspective to things I had been considering.

Morgan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there,</p>
<p>I have run into a similar problem to the one you described and wanted to expresss my appreciation for your clear thoughts on the matter. There is a website in the US called Craigslist (cragslist.com). Some guy created <a href="http://www.housingmaps.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.housingmaps.com</a> by esentially scraping data from craigslist and using the Google Maps API to provide a visual tool to the craigslist real estate listings.</p>
<p>I had thought of the same thing a while back, but using MLS data (MLS = multilisting, a regional consolidated data source for real estate professionals).  I made such an application, and it went so well I thought I would contact the people I was getting the MLS data from and offer them free advertising in exchange for an actual data feed, which they provide commercially.  They were not very nice to me, and sort of freaked out.  I have been trying to find another way to get this data, another *legal* way, but it doesnt seem likely. They have incredibly detailed rules regarding the use of their data, even for their paying customers.</p>
<p>Anyway, that was probably not very interesting to read, but I just wanted to thank you for the article. It gave some perspective to things I had been considering.</p>
<p>Morgan</p>
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